the cabin between obama, biden himself, secretary of defense, chuck hagel pro-iran ingaugement cabinet since the 1979 revolution. these guys seriously do want to do a deal. genuinely wants to try to build confidence with the united states, this is the best administration to do that. now, i think the dilemma he has is that for 24 years since 1989 he has been susupreme leader and he hasn't left the country since 1989 and he sought to preserve the status quo by transforming decisions and now put himself increasingly with back against the wall facing unprecedented international pressure, sanctions, et cetera whereby if he wants to reduce this pressure, either he needs to do a nuclear deal to reduce the pressure or go for nuclear weapon, the so-called pakistan option where by if they get a bomb, they believe that the outside world will be forced to deal with them. but these are both transformative options and both transformative choices for him. so, i think he's put himself in a very comfortable position. >> he's a conservative guy by nature. >> you're a revolutionary until you acquire powe